When There is No Doctor (Book)

[PsychicCop]

This is not to be confused with "Where there is No Doctor" by David Werner. This is a fairly new book having been published in 2010. It is by Gerald Boyle, MD.

This is not a "First Aid" book. But neither is it a field manual. It mainly deals with what you can do before, what the author terms, "Gridcrash." Call it whatever you want, TEOTWAWKI, The Apocalypse, ZPAW, this is what this book is intended to help you prepare for.

There is everything from physical training ideas, mental prep to deal with death and dying, improvising medical equipment, medical training advice, etc.

Overall this is one of the best books that I have on "Survival medicine". I would highly recommend it to anyone interested in this subject. It is geared towards the layperson but has plenty to keep more advanced providers interested.

This is from Amazon's book description by the author:

"I will not teach you to be a lone survivalist who anticipates doing an appendectomy on himself or a loved one on the kitchen table with a steak knife and a few spoons, although I will discuss techniques of austere and improvised medicine for really hard times."


http://www.amazon.com/When-There-Doc...5981296&sr=8-1


Just passing this along. Got a bunch more if there's any interest.

PsychicCop

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[JCA21]

thanks for the book, i'll have to order a copy.

too bad you can't give likes or reps on this forum lol.

[DontTreadOnMe201]

Nice. Glad you enjoyed it. This has been on my amazon wishlist for a while now. It hasn't managed to work its way up high enough on my priority list though yet. I gotta make a point to reel this one in! Thanks for posting!

[PsychicCop]

I would recommend getting this one before getting Improvised Medicine.

Nice. Glad you enjoyed it. This has been on my amazon wishlist for a while now. It hasn't managed to work its way up high enough on my priority list though yet. I gotta make a point to reel this one in! Thanks for posting!

[DontTreadOnMe201]

I def want them both. It is my understanding that this was made more for the lay person. Is that correct? I Already have a significant amount of medical training as an EMT, and having done my hospital time in an active trauma ward of a level 1 trauma center. Not that I'm some doctor or something, I just dont want something that mostly covers first aid type knowledge. Im already well versed in that and beyond. I got to treat allot of gun shot wounds and bad injuries. They both seem like great books but the improvised medicine one seems pretty definitive, as a massive text written by a reputable author. Not that this one isn't written by a reputable author, because i understand that he is a Doctor as well. I want them both. This one is cheaper so I may be able to get this one sooner. But I want them both. I think the other one might be a bit more technical though. Im interested in that. It discusses some surgical procedure. Stuff I have only taken classes on and never performed. I just need both. lol I need everything man...

Tell me a bit more about it? Whats your favorite chapter? What kind of medical procedures does it cover? Thanks again man!

[PsychicCop]

Hey DTOM,

Sorry for the long delay. I don't know which one is my favorite. I will say that "When there is no doctor" is much easier to read. It is geared for what you can do do to prepare for this eventuality. "Improvised medicine" reads much more like a textbook. This is the reference you want for the person is the most knowledgeable in regards to medicine.

I don't know about my favorite chapter, but I will tell you that there is a brief description about an IV training tool. I decided to make it. I didn't come out as I hoped. (see below!)



As you can see the "veins" are much deeper that they are supposed to be. Oh well. It is basically homemade ballistic gelatin. I am going to use it for target practice. I just bought an IV trainer on ebay. This is the type of thinking that this book will get you motivated to do.

So, I would start with "When there is no doctor". You should also look into "Ditch medicine". This was written by Hugh Coffee who is a RAT team member. There is also a video/DVD he made that I also have. That is an excellent resource as well. I was hoping he would put another one out as well. Hope that helps!

PsychicCop

I def want them both. It is my understanding that this was made more for the lay person. Is that correct? I Already have a significant amount of medical training as an EMT, and having done my hospital time in an active trauma ward of a level 1 trauma center. Not that I'm some doctor or something, I just dont want something that mostly covers first aid type knowledge. Im already well versed in that and beyond. I got to treat allot of gun shot wounds and bad injuries. They both seem like great books but the improvised medicine one seems pretty definitive, as a massive text written by a reputable author. Not that this one isn't written by a reputable author, because i understand that he is a Doctor as well. I want them both. This one is cheaper so I may be able to get this one sooner. But I want them both. I think the other one might be a bit more technical though. Im interested in that. It discusses some surgical procedure. Stuff I have only taken classes on and never performed. I just need both. lol I need everything man...

Tell me a bit more about it? Whats your favorite chapter? What kind of medical procedures does it cover? Thanks again man!